Stix Hooper...that's a name I haven't seen in twenty years...
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Stix Hooper...that's a name I haven't seen in twenty years...
Actually, I think the tune Vinnie is playing in the clip isn't "I Feel For You"" but is actually "Ain't Nobody". "I Feel For You" has a slower tempo and the groove doesn't fit what Vinnie's playing. "Ain't Nobody" would fit easily with what he's playing.
JR's video has a demonstration of "Ain't Nobody", which as cjbdrm mentioned was overdubbed and compiled into one track. It was recorded in three passes, first kick and snare, then hi-hat and finally toms and crashes. It was recorded this way for better isolation between instruments. Incidentally, Vinnie's groove in this clip differs noticeably from what J.R. Robinson demonstrates on his video. J.R.'s part is more consistent than what Vinnie plays, which changes from bar to bar.
Brad
Maybe that Vinnie use to play this song in a different way as he was just doing the live shows...
But I don't recognise "Ain't Nobody" in what Vince is playing.
I saw Jr play this song, two times, believe me he really don't need to play each elements seperate !!!
He's INCREDIBLE !!!
The UK Guys who were at Zildjian Days with Jr, Weckl, Erskoman, Neal Wilkinson, Gangadeen, Chuck Sabo... might remember about Jr performance, what a groover !!!
Peace.
well, I can see why Vdrummer thinks it might be 'ain't nobody' because the overall groove is similar, mostly because of the '1 e' on the bass drum each bar and the 1/16th feel. But ain't nobody is slower anyway and JR played 1/16ths on the hats rather than ghosting between snare and hats.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I was at that Zildjian Day Rodge. I nearly fell asleep, I was so bored. But when JR came on, he blew me away! He came on stage and said "I'm just gonna do what I do." He then played to Ain't Nobody and another Chaka Kahn track and just rocked the place!! The drums were shaking, he was groovin so hard!Quote:
The UK Guys who were at Zildjian Days with Jr, Weckl, Erskoman, Neal Wilkinson, Gangadeen, Chuck Sabo... might remember about Jr performance, what a groover !!!
I had to play Ain't Nobody every night for 2 weeks last year for a Christmas show and it's SO HARD to get together and make groove.
Yes Rudy, the "1 e" "ah 1 e" and "& ah 1 e" that Vinnie plays is very similiar to J.R.'s constant "ah 1 e". The rest of Vinnie's groove from the BD pattern, the 1 &ah HH groove and SD ghosting is all different but very cool all the same. None of these grooves would fit the other tune at all, but would fit "Ain't Nobody". It could be another tune entirely, but I'm thinking it's this song. It's one of those classic grooves, like Rosanna, Late In The Evening, etc., and worth learning both drummer's versions of it.
Hey Rodge, in the J.R. Video he does play the entire pattern all at once with a couple of variations, after he demonstrates how he recorded it. You're right, he's a great, grooving drummer. He also demonstrates several of his famous grooves from the 80's that are really great. It doesn't really surprise me that Vinnie might play the groove faster, especially at a clinic.
great article. thanks for that.
i remember J.R. going over the parts for 'aint nobody' at a clinic out here in so-cal a few years back. i'm pretty sure he did that track. great drum part. it was mind bending how he had such independance. originally i thought the hats and kick were seperately overdubbed but it wasn't.
as for vinnie, i do remember him playing (air drumming) that song along with chaka on a show called 'solid gold' back in the eighties. perhaps that's why we all thought he played it?
great post, btw! [img]biggrin.gif[/img]
Hey Da Chooch, you must not have read my post a little above this one. On JR's Video he describes how he overdubbed the track in 3 passes for the record. He plays it all at once on the video too.
'Tell me Something Good' is another cool track by JR. The live version(only one I know) drags in parts....is that JR? I think I saw him playing along to it during a clinic from a vid on this forum...he had to adjust to his own timing...lol
Love that track as well though.
hahah, sorry vdrum. i was trying to skim through to see if anyone else responded, but i guess i skimmed too quickly. cheers. [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img]